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XMir's purpose is to provide an X compatibility layer. Mir provides no such compatibility. So, when running XMir on top of Mir, you can run X apps. That's the idea, at least.
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JoshOn Jul 15, 2013 11:51 AM, "Joseph Mills" <josephjamesmills@ubuntu.com> wrote:Sweet then we will just have to wait for this implementations to happen then. Again I feel that XMIR would have to have some of the same libs that are included with x11 for all the apps to work. I mean you can not just launch a app that needs a lib when the lib is not installed and or can not be installed. I guess that I could build xmir and test this theory out. I will post my findings.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Josh Leverette <coder543@gmail.com> wrote:
android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be used as a driver layer. But yes. the answer to your question is yes. they will run.
Sincerely,
JoshOn Jul 15, 2013 11:45 AM, "Joseph Mills" <josephjamesmills@ubuntu.com> wrote:
I would hope not. But are you sure that that is going to run on a stacked android ? I guess that we will have to wait and see. GTK has nothing to do with this issue as most apps that are in say Kubuntu re wrote in QT. or say something like Mythtv this is wrote in QT also but will not run with out libs that need to be there. these are libs that are x11. I have no clue at all if them libs are in Mir or Xmir TBH.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why XMir exists. Ubuntu wouldn't've bet crazily on Mir just to say "no more backward compatibiltiy!!"--
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Yes, that is how it works. Once you install a program, it can be launched from anywhere you can launch a normal Linux program, including double clicking it.
Sincerely,
Josh
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 23:37 +0800, leon lee wrote:
> When it's clicked, the launcher/shell would run it with wine without
> known by the user. It's all seamless.
Pretty sure that's how Wine is configured in Ubuntu already. Wine
registers itself as the handler to .exe files etc. so that
double-clicking a Windows file will open it with Wine.
It'll still look like a Windows program, but then most Java programs
look equally out-of-place.
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XMir's purpose is to provide an X compatibility layer. Mir provides no such compatibility. So, when running XMir on top of Mir, you can run X apps. That's the idea, at least.
Sincerely,
Josh
Sweet then we will just have to wait for this implementations to happen then. Again I feel that XMIR would have to have some of the same libs that are included with x11 for all the apps to work. I mean you can not just launch a app that needs a lib when the lib is not installed and or can not be installed. I guess that I could build xmir and test this theory out. I will post my findings.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Josh Leverette <coder543@gmail.com> wrote:
android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be used as a driver layer. But yes. the answer to your question is yes. they will run.
Sincerely,
JoshOn Jul 15, 2013 11:45 AM, "Joseph Mills" <josephjamesmills@ubuntu.com> wrote:
I would hope not. But are you sure that that is going to run on a stacked android ? I guess that we will have to wait and see. GTK has nothing to do with this issue as most apps that are in say Kubuntu re wrote in QT. or say something like Mythtv this is wrote in QT also but will not run with out libs that need to be there. these are libs that are x11. I have no clue at all if them libs are in Mir or Xmir TBH.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why XMir exists. Ubuntu wouldn't've bet crazily on Mir just to say "no more backward compatibiltiy!!"--
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android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be used as a driver layer. But yes. the answer to your question is yes. they will run.
Sincerely,
JoshOn Jul 15, 2013 11:45 AM, "Joseph Mills" <josephjamesmills@ubuntu.com> wrote:
I would hope not. But are you sure that that is going to run on a stacked android ? I guess that we will have to wait and see. GTK has nothing to do with this issue as most apps that are in say Kubuntu re wrote in QT. or say something like Mythtv this is wrote in QT also but will not run with out libs that need to be there. these are libs that are x11. I have no clue at all if them libs are in Mir or Xmir TBH.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@gmail.com> wrote:
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android? android is disappearing from within Ubuntu touch. it'll only be used as a driver layer. But yes. the answer to your question is yes. they will run.
Sincerely,
Josh
I would hope not. But are you sure that that is going to run on a stacked android ? I guess that we will have to wait and see. GTK has nothing to do with this issue as most apps that are in say Kubuntu re wrote in QT. or say something like Mythtv this is wrote in QT also but will not run with out libs that need to be there. these are libs that are x11. I have no clue at all if them libs are in Mir or Xmir TBH.JosephOn Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zisu Andrei <matzipan@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why XMir exists. Ubuntu wouldn't've bet crazily on Mir just to say "no more backward compatibiltiy!!"
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That's why XMir exists. Ubuntu wouldn't've bet crazily on Mir just to say "no more backward compatibiltiy!!"
With out x11 this is going to be hard the only reason that I am not running some of the apps that love is because there is no x . tings that depend on x are just not going to run without it. And sadly there is no x
I don't see any reason why you would not be able to run other apps on Ubuntu. That would even be a disappointment if it didn't happen. The issue is how do you make gtk integrate nicely in the new qt based UI?
On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote:On 07/15/2013 10:54 AM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
Is this not a bit too ambitious? Although, open soirce could benefit from an actually usable office suite (don't get me started on LibreOffice).
On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
Yes, it would probably be a big undertaking, but it would boost the "one OS for every device" idea, since it would allow users to work from multiple devices. Plus, it would be developed by the community, so it wouldn't be much different from a bunch of 3rd-party developers working on their own, except they'd have leaders and maybe designers from Ubuntu/Canonical.
This brings up another question. Will non-Ubuntu Touch apps run on the desktop version of the Converged Ubuntu? Will we be able to run apps like LibreOffice on the desktop still?
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Grouper needs kernel boot arg: console=tty1, to boot flipped using
ubuntu-disk.img.
Adding this parameter to legacy (android) doesn't seem to cause any
misbehaviour (still boots).
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On 07/15/2013 10:54 AM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
Is this not a bit too ambitious? Although, open soirce could benefit from an actually usable office suite (don't get me started on LibreOffice).
On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
Yes, it would probably be a big undertaking, but it would boost the "one OS for every device" idea, since it would allow users to work from multiple devices. Plus, it would be developed by the community, so it wouldn't be much different from a bunch of 3rd-party developers working on their own, except they'd have leaders and maybe designers from Ubuntu/Canonical.
This brings up another question. Will non-Ubuntu Touch apps run on the desktop version of the Converged Ubuntu? Will we be able to run apps like LibreOffice on the desktop still?
-- Michael Spencer - ibeliever.github.io Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. - Proverbs 3:5-6
Yes, it would probably be a big undertaking, but it would boost the "one OS for every device" idea, since it would allow users to work from multiple devices. Plus, it would be developed by the community, so it wouldn't be much different from a bunch of 3rd-party developers working on their own, except they'd have leaders and maybe designers from Ubuntu/Canonical.On 07/15/2013 10:54 AM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
Is this not a bit too ambitious? Although, open soirce could benefit from an actually usable office suite (don't get me started on LibreOffice).
On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
This brings up another question. Will non-Ubuntu Touch apps run on the desktop version of the Converged Ubuntu? Will we be able to run apps like LibreOffice on the desktop still?
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Is this not a bit too ambitious? Although, open soirce could benefit from an actually usable office suite (don't get me started on LibreOffice).
On Monday, July 15, 2013, Michael Spencer wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
-- Michael Spencer - ibeliever.github.io Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. - Proverbs 3:5-6
On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
-- Michael Spencer - ibeliever.github.io Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. - Proverbs 3:5-6
In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?On 07/15/2013 10:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote:
I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
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I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
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In my opinion, an office suite (or at least a text editor) should become one of the core apps. I wonder if that is possible?I'd be interested in the answer to this as well -- though to be honest, iOS does have a good office suite, and the ones I've got on my Android phone are quite usable but nowhere near as good as iWork. The real problem is that we don't have a good office suite for phone or tablet yet.
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Hi all
I wondered if I (with the finished Ubuntu Phone with Mir and stuff),
would be able to run anything else than Qt/QML apps. It might be, that
they don't look and behave optimal on a touch screen, but they're
usable, at least on a tablet. And let's face it: one of the great
problems with Ubuntu Phone is, that there are only the core apps and a
few more apps. If you were able to run standard Ubuntu applications,
that would be a big benefit of the Ubuntu Phone. Even Android and iOS
doesn't have a good office app, and how about other, more advanced
tools? Only available on the desktop.
And, if this wish isn't to be met, would I have any luck by installing
Gtk and start an application from the command-line?
Regards
Andreas
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